Hey Joscha,

Nice to see you around. I sipped every sentence above :)

As you might remember I nagged you into reading my blabber on the same topics. And I was also super happy you actually did read it :D

And I am responding to this for two reasons:

  1. To say good work, because I rarely see real out of the box approaches to AI, where the imitation of our mind is not stuck in replicating some biologic solution, but the result of said solution
  2. To tell you that when you say “music” it might as well be literal. As in music of waveforms with specific amplitudes and wavelengths, a concerto of resonance, dissonance, difference and confluence between waveforms sent like sonars from, possibly, each and every cortical column.

And re. 2), I wonder if this could ever be used in ML, as in a kind of universal musical algorithm based on a super simple set of initial notes that compounds in time, a basic computation done over and over, but at scale being better than Naive Bayes, KNN, Linear regression or whatever else we come up with to tweak.

Since we’re having these minds as an eventual result of an evolutionary process there has to be a very simple and basic, overall, starting point, which then mutates and compounds on successful mutations. I just fail to see how the brain, even considering its specialised functions, could implement these magic tricks we come up with in every algorithm, all self fulfilling prophecies.

I am not saying they’re bad. They are great and very useful tools. But for true A.I., one that would perform a Turing Test on us, they’re just not helping.

I share a lot of what you have written here as a mindset about this theme. On the other hand you are a true A.I. researcher, while I am a random Joe of the Internets. So maybe my enthusiasm if not very appropriate. Therefore I’d like to explain it this way: I am thinking about this subject for a long time within my limited background (I am a product manager for an e-commerce) and patch together things I understand with things I read, using mostly inference and very little deduction. Due to lack of academic training in the domain I also lack instruments for deduction. I stumbled upon your work when a guy Viktor from Berlin sent me an email because he saw your Computation Metapsychology presentation and was just finished reading my ideas here and here, so he connected the basics. I was elated, well because, like, someone who knew what he was talking about was thinking what I was thinking, more or less that is, but some obvious common ground.

I know this is not how real research works and that you’re probably a very busy person, yet I wondered if some kind of idea exchange would work to somehow trigger insight that would be built on top of our peculiar and particular vision on A.I., intelligence and the inner workings of the mind, a pen pal of sorts, here on medium or somewhere else … I don’t know … :)

Anyway, with or without a future epistolary friendship, I think you’re on the right track, and you must know that

“I believe [too] that building such systems is our best chance to find out who we are.”.

Isn’t it weird how deep this is, considering its been written in the Vedas for so long then refreshed by the Talmud with So God created mankind in his own image?


I write so you feel like you’ve just had an idea. It’s a nice feeling.

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