Full disclosure, I consume porn. What I don’t understand here is:

  • should men stop “using” all porn or just porn that clearly denotes objectification? I don’t think feminism is about banishing pornography, right?
  • who teaches the difference between objectification and submissive dynamics? there is a certain level of truth in the fact that women’s subordination IS a sexual turn on, with or without pornography, has always been, and has been used by women. objectification is a social construct taught inside the education used to perpetuate patriarchy as power, and objectification is an inter-personal, humanistic universality type of harm.
  • can you teach objectification with porn? My guess is you can enforce the acceptance of it, but you cannot teach or “promote” it. If it is not already an issue, objectification will be a turn off, for example bimbo/gonzo while having a wide user base is a turn off for a lot of men. do we know how many?
  • how can the porn industry be persuaded, considering this anti woman porn type is the cheapest to produce and easiest to monetise?
  • what about the fact that objectification bleeds into porn from the rest of our culture: art, commerce, politics, tradition. Is a catwalk model less objectified to the viewer! than a woman acting a subordinate bimbo?
  • should the new generation of women drop porn friendliness and go back to distancing themselves from porn, or should they consume more of the “right” kind of porn? Which action would have more impact on dismantling patriarchy?

I mean, there is a lot of tip toe dance around this subject and very little clear direction. The “journalists” never discuss porn seriously as a cultural output of humanity, the “experts” make a whole pathology out of the entire human sexuality, which is in fact the fresh spring of our entire creativity, with porn the bottomless glacial lake of it, and philosophy is so content with appearing trendy for not condemning porn, that no serious effort is made into conquering it with the power of our mind, as this is how we, as a united humanity, should, in theory, act on our common artefacts: engage in a process of self discovery and leave denial behind to be forgotten.

While reading I was wondering if the girls in your example felt cheated on by porn consumption? I mean if they were there is your answer to “why the disparity between the stated commitment to being porn-friendly and the actual preference in partners”. I am not saying it is just that, but it may be good enough.

I was looking at the Culture Reframed website, in particular the Crisis page. I have a very poor understanding of what “PUBLIC HEALTH APPROACH” means so I’ll have to ask for patience with my ignorance:

  • does it mean we should create a law that restricts the creation of certain porn or that restricts only access to it?
  • which is more effective: proper education or restrictive access? which one does the group endorse?

I’m thinking that by enabling fear with pointing out things like “searches for “step dad and daughter” and “extreme gangbang” increased 307% and 275%, respectively”, which is a very complex statistic that may very well mean nothing (for example, did you know that a lot of porn titles and descriptions are SEO optimised, and that this process funnels everything inside niches that eventually explode, because completely unrelated pornography is classified as such for affiliation cashflow reasons?), so, by enabling fear, are we pushing society forward or backward?

Shouldn’t the fact that “Pornography has become a primary source of information about sex” be more a statement about parenting, education system and politics, than about the pornographic industry?

This phrase “Pornography has become a primary source of information about sex and a significant factor influencing sexual behaviors, especially among children and adolescents” conflates four distinct issues:

  • what is the primary source of information about sex?
  • what is the primary source of information about sex for children and adolescents?
  • why do children and adolescents have access to pornography “for information”?
  • how significant a factor influencing sexual behaviors is porn inside the whole of our culture?

When summed up as one big issue it sounds like SEO copywriting doing a marketing stunt on unaware people.

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